American analyst Jeff Sahadeo: I have a difficult time seeing Azerbaijan as part of NATO, unless...
19 September 2011 [17:40] - TODAY.AZ
Jeff Sahadeo, a Director of the Institute of European, Russian and Eurasian Studies (EURUS) at the Carlton University, is worried that the situation in the South Caucasus region remains unstable.
Tensions between Azerbaijan and Armenia continue to rise and
military spending continues to grow, he says, while talks over the
status of Nagorno-Karabakh have stalled.
Also, he adds, the appetite for further conflict over Ossetia has cooled
among the Georgian public, but the Putin/ Medvedev and Saakashvili
regimes continue to carry on a war of words to the extent that some kind
of minor violent border incident could flare into something larger.
In an interview with APA’s Washington DC correspondent, assistant professor Sahadeo explains more.
What are the main differences between the Russian and Western
approaches to the independent republics created after the collapse of
the Soviet Union?
Russia still considers the region its “backyard” and, especially in
the 2000s, has become determined to use its economic wealth to act as a
regional hegemony. Cultural and political links from the Soviet period
endure with the elites of some of these states, and migration to Russia
from poorer republics plays a large role in the regional economy.
Russia also sees the region as a critical market for its export goods,
though it has trouble competing with China in this respect. The western
approach, which focused first on the extension of NATO, has allowed the
former Communist bloc states as well as the Baltic republics of the
USSR to leave the Russian/ Soviet orbit. Western interests in the
Caucasus and Central Asia focus primarily on energy, and to some extent
security in the post 9/11 world.
But efforts to engage the region
politically have stalled: the 2005 massacre in Andijon spoiled relations
between the Uzbek and American governments, while the Bush
administration efforts to admit Georgia to NATO ended with the
Russia-Georgia war, when most of Europe, afraid to lose Russian energy
resources, proved willing not to lend support to the Saakashvili
government, especially as it became known the Georgians also shared
responsibility for the war’s outbreak.
What do you expect from the Karabakh negotiation process, how do
you see the future of it? What kind of role can the west play in this
process?
Both the Azerbaijani and Armenian governments have left themselves
little room for compromise in international negotiations. Proposals
over returns of refugees and referendum stall continuously as each side
only supports phrasing that is seen to aid their cause in retaining or
regaining Karabakh. The complete lack of trust between the two
governments, and their bellicose rhetoric towards the other, intended to
build support among nationalist publics, leaves me quite pessimistic
about progress. It is always better for dialogue to continue.
What needs to happen in South Caucasus countries so that they
better integrate into Euro-Atlantic structures? Where do you see the
region in 10 years?
Some type of resolution to these “frozen conflicts” will aid greatly
in integration into Euro-Atlantic structures. One major issue here is
Russia, and their desire not to “lose” this region as they felt that
they lost the Baltics. I doubt that the US and the West will risk a
major rupture with Russia, so integrating the South Caucasus into
Euro-Atlantic structures would require some degree of Russian assent. I
could see a scenario whereby, in several years, Turkey is admitted to
the EU and Georgia and perhaps the other Caucasus countries after that,
which may be one path. Russia sees the EU as less threatening than
NATO; and at this moment NATO has no strong incentive to expand.
Azerbaijan is actively cooperating with NATO, but still isn’t its
member. When do you think it will become a member, and will this ever
happen, taking into consideration Russia’s tough reaction?
I have a difficult time seeing Azerbaijan as part of NATO unless
relations between Russia and the west improve to the point that Russia
itself is given some status in the organization. That might be possible
in a post-Putin world. If the US and Europe consider Azerbaijan’s
energy reserves to be durable, then that might become a further
motivation to expand. But in the short term, there is no realistic way
to see Azerbaijan becoming a member of NATO.
What is the possibility of cooperation between Russia and US in the
security sphere? What would be the role of Azerbaijan in that
cooperation? Do you think that Gabala Radio Location Station is still on
the countries’ agenda in terms of security cooperation?
There is a possibility of superficial cooperation between the two, but
the level of trust is minimal. Now that the US feels it has the upper
hand on Al-Qaeda, there may be less desire to co-operate over terrorist
threats. Russia has chosen to take its own path on countries like Iran
and North Korea rather than co-operate with the US on these dangerous
states. With the sniping continuing between Russia and the US over
missile defense, I don’t think Gabala or similar facilities will be
places where the two will seek to co-operate.
/APA/
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